Talk:Hyōgo-ku, Kobe

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Article milestones Date Process Result February 21, 2016 Good article nominee Listed January 21, 2023 Good article reassessment Delisted
	A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 23, 2015. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the capital of Japan was once in Hyōgo?
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Reviewer: 333-blue (talk · contribs) 13:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

This article is about a "ku" of Japan, which consists pictures and galleries.

Grammar

Besure to correct the tenses, as per this sentence, for example:

It hosts the Tōka-Ebisu Taisai (lit. "10th Day Ebisu Grand Festival"), an annual festival held from 9–11 January in honour of Ebisu, the Shinto god of commerce.

Held →Hold.

No, "held" is correct, and "hold" is definitely not. However, "from 9–11 January" would be better as "on 9–11 January" or "from 9 to 11 January". BlueMoonset (talk) 01:33, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Style

Not very well-written, but still quite OK.

Note: User:BlueMoonset found more problems.

To stay on the topic

Details are generally staying on the topic, so it isn't a big problem.

Conclusion

This article is not good enough, but almost reach it, so I will put this on hold.

Comment

As 333-blue has noted that I found some issues with the article, though not what they are, I thought I should add my thoughts here. The Good Article criteria consists of six numbered sections, and the first of these is "Well-written". It has two subsections, the first of which mandates clear prose and accurate grammar, and the second of which requires complying with five specific sections of Wikipedia's Manual of Style. The first of these MOS guidelines is the lead section, which says that the lead section should be a summary of the various sections of the article, and should not contain information that is not also in the rest of the article. The lead section of this article does not meet either of these requirements: with the sole exception of its name, no fact in the lead appears in the rest of the text, and there is no summation of the sections in the body of the article in the lead. The second is the article's layout, which includes a section on images. Images should not overflow their section, which occurs most notably in the Canals section.

The History section doesn't seem to be sufficiently broad, since it mentions the 8th century, the 12th century, and the 19th century. Some filling in of the gaps would be welcome, as would be an English translation, in the etymology section, of the new name. There are also sections where the contents are a single subsection. Either there should be more subsections given if the subject matter is broader than shown, or the sole secondary header should be removed.

I haven't had time to do a close reading of all the sentences, though I saw one place where "networks" was typoed "netowrks", and if there are going to be significant additions to the text I'd rather hold off until those have been completed. This should be enough for now. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, if not better, I will close it tomorrow, probably. 333-blue 08:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What's the rush? There wasn't anything substantive given here to fix until a few hours ago. Now that there are specifics, the standard is to allow at least a week for the nominator, AtHomeIn神戸, to make modifications to the article, and if good progress is being made when the week is up but not everything is complete, that time is typically extended. BlueMoonset (talk) 09:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tomorrow is the end of the week of on hold. 333-blue 11:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BlueMoonset, thank you very much for your comments. I will commence work on improving the article. 333-blue, I have every intention of fixing the article to bring it up to the required standard, but until now you have not provided anything to work with. I recognize that there is some work required which I will try to do in a reasonable time, but it certainly will not be finished by tomorrow. I ask for patience from both of you in the meantime. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:05, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will give you time, I hope that you can finish before 18 January 2016, before the 2016 Australian Open Main Draw starts. 333-blue 08:28, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

333-blue, pinging you for a progress report. As you can see, I've added more than a thousand words of text to the history and government sections over the last couple of days. Last night I borrowed books from the library including one on the pre-1600s history of the area as well as the war and earthquake. I am serious about expanding this further, but the books are in Japanese so it will take me time to extract the best information and put it into English. Why don't you take care of your tennis articles and check back here at the end of the month? That will give me time to do a complete job. Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks, I will take my times to care about this article. 333-blue 08:28, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• ✓ Pass: much better now. 333-blue 06:59, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

History?

• Hyogo castle ja:兵庫城
• Warakuen aquarium ja:神戸市立須磨海浜水族園

Geography

• Wadamisaki ja:和田岬
• Minato River ja:湊川 (兵庫県)
• San'yōdō

Hospitals

• Kobe Century Memorial Hospital ja:神戸百年記念病院
• Mitsubishi
• Kawasaki

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