Talk:Hunger circus

The current revision works well. - Mihnea Tudoreanu

I took this out: "It seems he also intended the refectories to eliminate the need for kitchens in personal apartments." We all know that Ceausescu was nuts, but to include this assertion here, we need a citation. Dmaftei 16:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This says "A fourth mall in a hunger circus is curently being built in Rahova." Was there more than one of these in Rahova? Because there is certainly one there (along the tram line of the 8, 11, and 12) that is simply sitting as an insta-ruin. - Jmabel | Talk 13:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a picture to the article of the insta-ruin in Rahova. Is this the one someone claims is being turned into a mall? Or is there another? - Jmabel | Talk 23:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Sfânta Vineri" Street is translated here as "Saint Friday Street". I believe this would be Saint Paraskevi. - Jmabel | Talk 06:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You made a good point, since "Sf. Vineri" and "Sf. Paraschiva" (I'm using Romanian notation) are quite intricated. The story deserves some details.

The present "Sfânta Vineri" Street got its name from the "Sfânta Vineri" Church (its full name was "Sfânta Vineri-Herasca").

Its exact location was at the cross-way of "Calea Cǎlǎraşilor" with "Sfânta Vineri" Street. The Coral Temple is just across the street, on the other side of "Calea Cǎlǎraşilor". (Actually, between the Coral Temple and "Calea Cǎlǎraşilor" there was a 19th century building, presumably an inn. After razing it, they built another awful apartment block, just as they did across tge street, on the ruins of the former "Sfânta Vineri" church.)

The "Sfânta Vineri" Church was the most popular church in Bucharest and its metropolitan area. Living for years in the proximity of that church, I always was impressed by the crowds of believers attending there. The main reason for this was the presence of a sanctified icon of the Saint Paraschiva.

Adoring the icon of Saint Paraschiva in a church called Saint Friday points out to two layers of religious faith functioning in a synchretic way:

- a relatively recent one, devoted to a "main-stream" orthodox saint - the Paraschiva

- a much older stratum of faith, dedicated to the latin deity "Venera" which became the Romanian Saint "Vineri".

In the traditional, rural Romanian society, the Saint Friday ("Sfânta Vineri") was a very powerfull and important saint, responsible, among other things, for family and love matters, just as its latin mother Venera. For instance, in the Romanian fairy-tales Sfânta Vineri is a common and strong presence, testing mortals and rewarding/punishing them, according to their deeds.

It is known that the Christian Church recuperated pagan deities in its favor (actually, every new religion builds on the ruins of the old ones): many Christian saints absorbed traits and competencies of their pagan predecessors. However, the Sfânta Vineri cult impresses with its direct pagan filliation and its unbowed vitality.

Besides, one of the most important cemeteries in Bucharest is the "Sfânta Vineri cemetery", located on the Calea Griviţei.

It seems that the existence of a church devoted to Saint Friday has a quite long tradition (for Romanian conditions, at least), dating from the 14-15th century. Bringing into that church an icon of the popular Saint Paraschiva, was like a second attempt to recuperate the good old Venera, this time for the benefit of the BOR (Romanian Orthodox Church).

Yet, I don't think that the Romanian Orthodox hierarchy was too sympathetic to this pagan-christian synchretic cult of Saint Paraschiva in the Saint Friday church. Fact is, the church has been torn down under highly dramatic circumstances, of which I was a witness and actor, in the late 1987.

Perhaps, an article to witness about the church, its cult and tragic end, would not be inappropriate.

Anyway, a new Sfânta Vineri Church is emerging in the Bucharest's southern district of Berceni.

Some main churches of Bucharest listed here:

http://www4.pmb.ro/wwwt/wwwcs/biserici/biserici_buc.html#sus

Sorry for being to long.

--Vintila Barbu 18:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. We have nothing on Saint Friday. But we are often weak on Orthodox saints. Think you could start something? And the church would also probably be worth an article. - Jmabel | Talk 06:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You know how the French say: "Promising is noble, keeping is bourgeois" (!!) (Promettre c'est noble, tenir c'est bourgeois") I'll try anyway. --Vintila Barbu 14:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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