Talk:Grande Tema incident

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A fact from Grande Tema incident appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that during the 2018 Grande Tema incident, four stowaways threw faeces and urine and made threats to kill the ship's crew? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grande Tema incident.

A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on December 21, 2023.

I am happy for you to delete the article I made on this a while ago as this one is of much better quality and I never got round to adding more to the original. As for not having a reliable source stating the codename of the operation was Operation Buckthorn: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6526825/Stowaways-accused-trying-container-ship-revealed-Nigerian-Liberian.html - "Once the mission – understood to have been codenamed Operation Buckthorn – was complete, the troops were joined by police officers who arrested the stowaways.". TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 16:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TheBestEditorInEngland, thanks for the reply it's much appreciated. After 7 days the other article will be deleted. I don't agree with the policy but it has been decided that the Daily Mail is "generally unreliable". See WP:DAILYMAIL - Dumelow (talk) 19:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see why anyone would just make up the Operation codename and see it spread as much as it has but without any reliable, especially official, sources, I supposed the name can't be backed up with any evidence. Also thanks for letting me know, I will try and steer clear of using the Daily Mail as a reference in future and online news in general if it can be avoided. All the best, TheBestEditorInEngland (talk) 22:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article in The Sun (also an unreliable source) claims the operation was called Operation Renegade, not Operation Buckthorn. Some even less reliable things elsewhere (which I won't even link) claim the operation was called Buckthorn but the helicopters' callsigns were Renegade-1, -2 etc. The trouble with all these low quality publications citing "sources" of their own is that it turns into Chinese whispers - it doesn't need anyone to be lying or making stuff up, but rumours and misunderstandings get repeated as "facts" until they end up here (see Circular reporting#Circular reporting on Wikipedia) and we give them the imprimatur of legitimacy that The Sun doesn't. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 18:47, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]