Talk:Fido (Italian dog)

Geography mistakes in this article

"Luco" in this case doesn't seem to mean the referent of this article, Luco, but rather what a machine transalation of what the Italian Wikipedia (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgo_San_Lorenzo#Frazioni) calls:

"Luco di Mugello, already ancient castle in Val di Sieve dei conti Guidi, is a small village mentioned in several medieval documents that owes its name to lucus, meaning "sacred Grove". In its territory is situated the camaldolese monastery of San Pietro a female Luco, whose origins date back to the last years of the 11th century."

Please help me get this right for the readers. Chrisrus (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Luco di Mugello is a village in the commune of Borgo San Lorenzo. That is not a mistake! -- PMM82 (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections

I am the author of the article in the Italian Wikipedia. There were some mistakes in this article and I have corrected them.

  • First of all, I don't know why the names of the master was translated. The correct name is "Carlo Soriani";
  • It is sure that Fido was born in 1941. It was rescued in november (so, in autumn, not winter) and was a puppy;
  • The sentence "Villagers noticed him and tried to gain his trust, but Fido was very skittish and would let no one approach him" is not correct. There are no sources reporting that, while all the articles written by Italian media report that Soriani was the first to notice Fido;
  • Soriani was a brick kiln worker;
  • The most important mistake (but it was clearly a Time's mistake) was this sentence: "Fido's master's widow "though hard pressed to support her own household", raised and paid the money for Fido's dog license. When she died, "despite the desperate straits of his own treasury, the mayor of Luco himself decreed that Fido should henceforth live tax-free as the only legally unlicensed dog in Italy. 'He has set an example of fidelity to our village," said his honor, "and deserves to be placed on the list of Luco's honored citizens.'". This is not correct. Italian newspapers La Nazione and La Domenica del Corriere reported that Fido died before Soriani's widow's death: they reported that some kids found Fido dead on a country road near her home, and they run to inform her, who immediately started crying. Indeed, the mayor of Borgo San Lorenzo (not Luco, that has not a mayor) decreed Fido live tax-free when Soriani's widow was still alive. [1]

Furthermore, I think that the sentence "only legally unlicensed dog in Italy" need a citation, because I am not sure that Fido was really the only one.

Tell me if you need other informations. -- PMM82 (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photos for Fido

This is a plea to the Wikipedia community to contribute images badly needed by this article such as can be found among these.

The most obvious need is an image of the bronze. If you don’t have or can’t get the right to any of those on the net, maybe you can go to the Piazza Dante, Borgo San Lorenzo, Italy, here.

I Google-map "walked" around the park. There's an Irish Pub, the Shamrock. I tried but failed to find the email address for the bar to ask a patron to snap a photo of it. If you can think of anything creative like that, I’m all ears.

President Abraham Lincoln allegedly had a dog named Fido

According to this article, Lincoln had a dog named Fido. This wiki article is very interesting, and I am not suggesting a specific change. If the Italian Fido has any connection to Lincoln's Fido, then maybe this article would benefit from a reference. It seems to me that the two names are a coincidence, though. In which case, maybe a separate article about Lincoln's Fido is a good idea and then add a "See also" link from this article. hunterhogan 01:44, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 January 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved both (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 23:11, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]



– See WP:PDAB. "Fido (dog)" is incomplete disambiguation. See pageviews [2]. The second request is to bring that title consistent with a similar article (Major (Joe Biden's dog)) which was recently discussed at RM. I'll note that Abraham Lincoln is not the primary topic for Lincoln. 162 etc. (talk) 22:16, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Dogs has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Italy has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the first idea (since Lincoln's Fido is also a dog). Oppose on the second (brevity, and the word "Lincoln's" seems specific not only to Abraham but also includes his children who cared for the dog as a pet). Randy Kryn (talk) 23:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support both. See also Major (Franklin D. Roosevelt's dog) and Pete (Theodore Roosevelt's dog) and Rex (Ronald Reagan's dog). If the idea is to refer to it collectively as the dog of the Lincoln family, it would be "Lincolns' dog" (per MOS:PLURALNOUN), not "Lincoln's dog". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:10, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Good point about site consistency, have removed my oppose. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:44, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support we generally shouldn't be using only surnames even for qualifiers. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Fido is a generic dog name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed it is a stereotypical dog name, especially in cartoons. I added some more entries to the Fido disambiguation page. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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