Talk:Art Deco architecture of New York City

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David Fuchs, according to Robins, Anthony W. (2017). New York Art Deco: A Guide to Gotham's Jazz Age Architecture, there are dozens of Art Deco landmarks on both the NYCLPC and NRHP lists that can be added to the "Landmarked buildings" table. I don't know if we should include them all, as it includes such landmarks as the Madison Belmont Building (where only the gates are in the Art Deco style) or The Normandy (which also includes significant amounts of classical detailing). Even so, I thought this may be worth considering. – Epicgenius (talk) 04:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While I've been using a lot of Robins (because he's one of the few authors who spends any significant time outside Manhattan, although there's really no great source for a lot of outer-borough Deco) for the landmark list I've been trying to hew to what the LPC specifically mentions as mainly deco or moderne. There's always the questionable ones, but like The American Radiator (which is sometimes called deco, sometimes transitional, sometimes just modern gothic) I think it makes sense to keep it more constrained, especially when sources disagree. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 13:16, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@David Fuchs, congrats on the successful FAC promotion, and I'm sorry I didn't get the chance to support this nom earlier. I did have a few remaining comments about the page, none of which are major.

• "Public works", 1st paragraph: The money went to projects such as a network of public pools across the city, with Crotona Park in the Bronx and Tompkinsville Pool in Staten Island being built with Art Deco flourishes. - I think the bathhouses were designed in the Art Deco style, rather than the pools.
• "Public works", 2nd paragraph: {Though construction began in 1911, by 1930 it was still incomplete - Maybe worth mentioning that the library was original designed in a different style?
• "Decline and legacy", 1st paragraph: The International Style and modernism replaced Art Deco as it fell out of favor during and after World War II - I would clarify whether Art Deco declined gradually starting with the 1932 MoMA exhibition. Art Deco structures in NYC were still popular through the late 1930s, with masterpieces such as the Marine Air Terminal being completed years after the MoMA exhibition, but you can mention that fewer and fewer Art Deco structures were being built, if the sources support this.
• "Decline and legacy", 4th paragraph: Minor point but I believe the LPC existed before old Penn Station was demolished. It only gained power to formally protect buildings after old Penn was demolished, but it certainly existed before then.
• "Decline and legacy", 5th paragraph: Some Art Deco buildings were demolished before they were eligible for protection. I'd also comment on some of the buildings that were significantly modified before they became eligible for protection, and some that were never landmarked in the first place (e.g. the Tiffany & Co. flagship store). Again, not a big issue - you already mention that some building owners defaced facades to prevent landmark status.

All of these comments are optional, but I think these might help improve the article more. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:45, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]