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Section sizes Section size for Arabs (50 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 48,994 48,994 Etymology 5,494 5,494 Origins 4,177 17,154 In Abrahamic traditions 12,977 12,977 History 12,751 89,653 Antiquity 17,920 37,528 Classical antiquity 14,352 14,352 Late antiquity 5,256 5,256 Middle Ages 4,607 20,837 Arab empires 24 16,230 Rashidun era (632–661) 3,504 3,504 Umayyad era (661–750 & 756–1031) 2,871 2,871 Abbasid era (750–1258 and 1261–1517) 2,765 2,765 Fatimid era (909–1171) 3,197 3,197 Ottoman era (1517–1918) 3,869 3,869 Renaissance 8,959 8,959 Modern period 9,578 9,578 Identity 3,184 3,184 Subgroups 12,402 12,402 Geographic distribution 30 37,162 Arab homeland 876 876 Arab diaspora 2,581 36,256 Europe 9,186 9,186 Americas 12,527 12,527 Caucasus 2,622 2,622 Central, South, East and Southeast Asia 5,285 5,285 Sub-Saharan Africa 4,055 4,055 Religion 10,202 10,202 Culture 2,033 77,326 Language 3,139 3,139 Mythology 3,650 3,650 Literature 8,484 8,484 Cuisine 3,900 3,900 Art 8,745 8,745 Architecture 4,412 4,412 Music 6,014 6,014 Spirituality 4,632 4,632 Philosophy 2,681 2,681 Science 20,989 20,989 Theatre 2,903 2,903 Fashion 2,513 2,513 Wedding and marriage 3,231 3,231 Genetics 9,450 9,450 See also 149 149 References 17 11,538 Notes 47 47 Citations 49 49 Sources 11,425 11,425 Further reading 613 613 External links 712 712 Total 324,033 324,033

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i've heard a lot of Arabs say they regard Arab chiefly as a linguistic group identity; ethnically they are Moroccan or Palestinian, Jordanian or Druze, Iraqi or Algerian. I know this is just hearsay, but maybe the contested nature of the label should be elaborated? 128.114.255.141 (talk) 05:46, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

here's at least one .edu source which agrees https://www.africa.upenn.edu/K-12/Who_16629.html it's pretty clearly a rudimentary kids' intro to the topic, but seemingly one made by qualified experts 128.114.255.141 (talk) 05:48, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In follow-up to this, I'd suggest trimming the "History" section in particular, transferring any well-sourced content to History of the Arabs or elsewhere. Not only is it the largest section by far, but most of this history is covered directly by other relevant articles, so an overview article about one ethno-linguistic group doesn't really need to go into all this detail. The sections on "Antiquity" and the paragraphs preceding it are especially in need of WP:SUMMARYSTYLE.

The "Renaissance" subsection is also inserted awkwardly out of chronological order and has a bit of a POV slant: emphasizing an "Arab" character on the history of the whole Muslim world, even for something like the "Timurid Renaissance", which is hardly of central relevance here. We could probably move the most relevant points to other subsections and trim some of the more puffery-ish material. The Nahda, which is only mentioned in passing, might deserve more attention as part of the "Modern period". R Prazeres (talk) 20:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I support trimming the "History" section. Aintabli (talk) 03:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is significant amount of the arab diaspora in the Dominican Republic which is not mentioned here. There is an estimate of 1 million descendants of arabs in the Dominican Population, specially coming from Palestine, Lebanon and Syria. This must be added as in the map is not even marked. The influence is so high that the current president is arab, the vice president as well as his wife. 2A02:AA10:227E:5380:89F6:AA8:6F1C:158F (talk) 06:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide a reliable source. Zero^talk 15:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not finding any estimates remotely approaching 1 million. The World Atlas puts the number at 1% of the population, which, in turn, is about 11 million. The background of the president is irrelevant. Peru has had a Japanese-Peruvian president though only 0.2% of its population is of Japanese ethnicity. Largoplazo (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is stated that the Amorites "likely originated from Arabia, but as even mentioned on the Amorites Wiki page, the prevailing academic consensus is that the Amorites (actually) most likely originate from central Syria in the mountainous region of Jebel Bishri. This should be mentioned to avoid creating a false impression of the dominant global academic consensus. 2601:587:4302:1620:1A6:8CEB:D70A:D0CC (talk) 14:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whichever is the case, the language that they spoke doesn't seem to have been close to Arabic... AnonMoos (talk) 15:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It should be specified in the Pre-Islamic period that the concept of "Arab" as an ethnic identity did not yet exist among the Arabic-speaking populations in the world . Arab shouldn't be confused with "Arabian" . TheCuratingEditor (talk) 17:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]