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This list is totally wrong. There are no military districts anymore, 15 Armored Brigade don't exist, 6 Armored Cavalry brigade was reduced to battalion and become parto of 12 Mechanized, 36 Mechaznized was reduced to battalion and become a part of 7 Coastal Defence. In 25th Air Cavalery Air Groups are operational structures made of one battalion, one W-3 squadron and one Mi-8m squadron. Where are the air squadrons in this huh? Delete this picture and stop posting bullshit. --Corran.pl (talk) 12:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that this file is still here and no one cares if it is correct or not. It should look something like this: http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2662/polandlandforcesri8.png --Corran.pl (talk) 11:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the info. Where did you get it from? Are you sure about it??? The structure you present is completely different from the structure I found on the homepage of the various Polish military units. Also this is a massive reduction in units - are you sure? See, if you are sure about your changes it is fine for me, but I ask because I want to be sure, that we upload a more correct version afterwards. greetings, --noclador (talk) 16:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just had a look at the Polish language wikipedia and there all the Brigades you removed from the graphic are still listed as active units of the Polish Land Forces... --noclador (talk) 16:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Polish Wikipedia is wrong. Please correct your grapahic or remove it. --Corran.pl (talk) 20:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will do neither. Before I change any of my graphics I require some proof, that the Polish Land Force Structure has really changed. As of now the only information about such a change is your claim; this is not enough. I had a look at some of the official pages of the Polish Land Forces and I found many differences between what you say and what I found there. --noclador (talk) 21:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you had no good sources then why are you posting informations that you can be sure of? You don't belive me - ok, then just remove this graphic, it creates wrong impression of facts. --Corran.pl (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are still lots of wrong informations on this list. 1st Special Commando Reg. is not Grom, it is a totaly diferend unit and is not part of Land Forces but under Special Operations Command. The reserve battalions no longer exist - most of them were converted into regular battalions or regiments. What is ShKH-77? Never heard of something like this in polish land forces. --Corran.pl (talk) 08:37, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First 49 and 56 helicopters squadrons are now 1st Land Forces Aviation Brigade, the HQ is in Inowrocław, the old regiments are now "Air bases" as a part of Brigade. Here you have reference and structure of the brigade: http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,2,4,973,armie-swiata,wojsko-polskie,1-brygada-lotnictwa-wojsk-ladowych Corran.pl (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Second, you have names wrong; all battalions (tank, mechanized and motorized) are called battalions (not squadrons). All AA artillery and artillery squadrons are squadrons (not groups). Some units have double names, one is Old, historical one but the operational structure is everywhere the same. Corran.pl (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Third, 9th Armored, 15th and 205th Mechanized have regular T-72M1, 1st, 9th, 10th and 34th Armored have ZSU-23-4 (upgraded), the rest of AA squadrons use variants of ZU-23-2 with missiles and with truck carriers (Hibneryt). All squadrons also have MPSAM - Grom or Strzała-2M. I would use self-propelled icon for squadrons with ZSU-23-4 and the other on for the rest.Corran.pl (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fourth, You have structure of 21st Mountain totally wrong, search for more recent information. There is one dedicated mountain battalion and two more regular (but also receive some mountain training).Corran.pl (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fifth, 12th and 17th Brigades now all (all of battalions) use KTO Rosomak, the artillery Squadron uses Dana. All other artillery squadrons in brigades use 2S1 Goździk. All mechanized battalions use BWP-1 (including 7th Coastal Defence). 25th Air Cav has two aviation squadrons, not regiments. Each squadron has two escadres (12-16 helicopters); Nowy Glinik also has flight of AEW helicopters, Tomaszów Mazowiecki flight of dedicated MEDEVAC helicopters. Use: http://www.jednostki-wojskowe.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=26 for referenceCorran.pl (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]