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Considering this is a predominantly Italian film, with and Italian production co-production and is was shot by an Italian, I see no reason for the film to use it's American poster. We are supposed to use the original poster from the country per WP:FILMPOSTER, which is this one. The film wasn't released in the US until 3 years later. Source. For these reasons, it's better to use the Italian poster. Andrzejbanas (talk) 21:53, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just another thought, there is no "extra inforation" on this poster. It doesn't list cast, director or anything. It just has promotion. While the Italian one has the cast, director, production company, and more. The title in English is on the top of the wiki article, so it won't harm anyone coming here for such an esoteric film.Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:02, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In spite of what you are saying here, I don't see any "original poster from the country rule" in WP:FILMPOSTER. WP:FILMPOSTER just expresses a preference for original theatrical poster over DVD/VHS covers, teaser posters etc. The actual poster is consistent with the article title, and confirms the US release, and says how it was promoted, as long as this is English WP there is no reason to change it. Cavarrone 22:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say that. I said the the original theatrical release. Which is the 1960 release. This would make Italy the earliest known release, so let's use that poster. For someone who worked on various film articles, you should see that the majority of them use their appropriate countries poster. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:42, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've been around long enough to know that the question is sometimes still discussed but there is no consensus for your interpretation of WP:POSTER. I could link a couple of discussions, with no emerging consensus between your position and mine. When I look for "original theatrical poster" on Google, I find tons of posters in which country of the film and country of the poster does not match. Both the images are "original theatrical posters", there is an earliest one but not a "more original" one between the two, and the guideline does not mention the country or the date as a criterium to choose a poster over another (otherwise we could dispute which poster was chronologically the earliest between the one you chose, this, this or a couple of others). WP:POSTER has not such mandatory rules, and there are multiple factors editors are free to consider. As long as the current image is not a random Japanese or Arab poster but an image which reflects the current title of the article it isn't so inappropriate to keep it. For foreign films of the past, even if they were at the time released in US, it is hard to find even mediocre-quality US poster images, and especially for old European films, it is often exceptional to find a visual proof of their release in the US, let alone to find a high quality image with such a peculiar cover art as this one. To cut a long story short, I just prefer the US version and I don't see the need of changing an image which stayed here undisputed for over 3 ½ years, sorry. Cavarrone 06:27, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We have actually do have proof it was released in the United states, without a poster. Also, several films have had american posters made that never actually received wide release at all in the United States, so that point is moot. Regardless of "other stuff exists" for your argument about the other Italian posters, this one is still in the style of the posters from the 1960s.

I believe that this one is still better, as it lists cast, staff, and shows the origin country and language of the film. Yours shows...stuff already mentioned in prose and has a name that is already listed in the infobox, opening sentence and title of the article. Length an image was in the infobox does not make anything stay longer or not either, so sorry about that one too I'm afraid. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:31, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FILMPOSTER states "...an image of the film's original theatrical release poster should be uploaded ..." So as it was released in Italy some years before being released elsewhere, then it would make sense to have the original Italian poster. Maybe the American poster can be added to the body of the article, if fair-use allows it? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 10:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Lugnuts assessment. The Italian poster belong in the infobox. The US poster could go in the release section. MarnetteD|Talk 15:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Glad there's at least some more consensus here. As stated above and in the article, the film was released in Italy far earlier than it was in the US. I'll give this a bit more time but if there is no further arguement, than we i'll change it back to the Italian poster. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:22, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the "country of origin" argument, while sensible in my opinion, technically does not have any backing. However, the "original theatrical release" argument does, and it applies here. I'd say change it to the Italian poster as well. Sock (tock talk) 11:38, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The country of origin will generally be the initial release poster if that helps, but I understand that it's not always the case. I believe we've heard enough and I'll change it back now. Thanks for everyone discussing this. Andrzejbanas (talk) 11:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]